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Hey guys just a couple of questions,what type of knot do you use to tie to the jig itself,do you tie to the solid ring or split ring,any advice or sites to go to would be appreciated.
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I use a Uni knot with a protective thimble/sleeve tied to the solid ring.
 
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Dito or recently started trying crimps with a twist leader to avoid losing gear to the sharks.
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Ah i see,so when you want to change jigs its just a matter of using the split ring,do the split rings last ok or once you see a gap forming,replace it? 
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depends on brand.... the ones that come with the jigs normally have a short life span
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just had a look,i got some owner hyper wire split rings (36kg),only fishing up to 200/250gm tops,solid rings are sure catch 200kgShocked
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hyper wire are normally all good, although spreading a smaller wring over a wider solid may not be a good idea
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reckon i may need to get some smaller solids,although the solids are not fully rounded ,they sort of look concave,egg shape.
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Always tie  to the solid ring, never the split ring, it should only be used to attatch the jig to the solid ring. The rationale is that you want to be connected as directly a possible to the hook, The jig is surperfluous after hooking up, and has done its job. The most direct connection to the hook ensures that the  Jig has less chance of being used by a head shaking fish as a pendulium to shake the hook free. 
 This as you say also allows you to change jigs as required to suit conditions.
The split rings as such dont need to be super heavy as they arent taking an excessive load, Stil at thirty odd dollars a jig I use the strongest I can find. Cheers hope this helps
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if you are using a spinning outfit then it is advisable to add a strong quality swivel to a strong high quality  splitring and tie leader to that.  The swivel negates alot of the line twist you get from spin reels.  This is the only scenario that goes against what others have said previously.
Be very careful about over stretching splitrings caused by solid rings bring too thick and/or split rings being of dubious quality.  Everything has its price so spend as much in this area as you can afford.  This cost is never as high as a lost jigs and fish
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IMO use the heaviest owner splits and solids for deicated jigging gear.

For my PE3 spin set I use JM 80lb oval (They fit through top guides) and size 7 owner hyper wire splits. Simply so I can change spools between jigging and deepwater softbaiting with out having to cut the leader.

I use uni with heavy wall heatshrink sleeve to protect the leader to solid knot. If there was such a thing as clear thimbles I'd probably use those but they all seem to be lumo.
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[QUOTE=marx]IMO use the heaviest owner splits and solids for deicated jigging gear.

For my PE3 spin set I use JM 80lb oval and size 7 owner hyper wire splits. Simply so I can change spools between jigging and deepwater softbaiting with out having to cut the leader.

I use uni with heavy wall heatshrink sleeve to protect the leader to solid knot. If there was such a thing as clear thimbles I'd probably use those but they all seem to be lumo.
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Originally posted by bush billy bush billy wrote:

Originally posted by marx marx wrote:

IMO use the heaviest owner splits and solids for deicated jigging gear.

For my PE3 spin set I use JM 80lb oval and size 7 owner hyper wire splits. Simply so I can change spools between jigging and deepwater softbaiting with out having to cut the leader.

I use uni with heavy wall heatshrink sleeve to protect the leader to solid knot. If there was such a thing as clear thimbles I'd probably use those but they all seem to be lumo.
why not lumo?


Just seems daft to have something so visual above all the gear you are using to attract fish. Seem like an ideal way to loose jigs to coutta.
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Originally posted by marx marx wrote:

Originally posted by bush billy bush billy wrote:

Originally posted by marx marx wrote:

IMO use the heaviest owner splits and solids for deicated jigging gear.

For my PE3 spin set I use JM 80lb oval and size 7 owner hyper wire splits. Simply so I can change spools between jigging and deepwater softbaiting with out having to cut the leader.

I use uni with heavy wall heatshrink sleeve to protect the leader to solid knot. If there was such a thing as clear thimbles I'd probably use those but they all seem to be lumo.
why not lumo?


Just seems daft to have something so visual above all the gear you are using to attract fish. Seem like an ideal way to loose jigs to coutta.


thought about that way too.. but couldnt confirm as I always get hit by them snakes with or w/o lumo thimbles when they are around.. You can get metal U or O metal ring thimbles.. saw a couple from smartmarine and sailors corner that I still have to try.
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Originally posted by Kenshin Kenshin wrote:

Originally posted by marx marx wrote:

Originally posted by bush billy bush billy wrote:

Originally posted by marx marx wrote:

IMO use the heaviest owner splits and solids for deicated jigging gear.

For my PE3 spin set I use JM 80lb oval and size 7 owner hyper wire splits. Simply so I can change spools between jigging and deepwater softbaiting with out having to cut the leader.

I use uni with heavy wall heatshrink sleeve to protect the leader to solid knot. If there was such a thing as clear thimbles I'd probably use those but they all seem to be lumo.
why not lumo?


Just seems daft to have something so visual above all the gear you are using to attract fish. Seem like an ideal way to loose jigs to coutta.


thought about that way too.. but couldnt confirm as I always get hit by them snakes with or w/o lumo thimbles when they are around.. You can get metal U or O metal ring thimbles.. saw a couple from smartmarine and sailors corner that I still have to try.
Its not that far from the jig what can be half lumo or more and you think the coutta will go for the littel thimbles not the jig?
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Originally posted by bush billy bush billy wrote:

Originally posted by Kenshin Kenshin wrote:

Originally posted by marx marx wrote:

Originally posted by bush billy bush billy wrote:

Originally posted by marx marx wrote:

IMO use the heaviest owner splits and solids for deicated jigging gear.

For my PE3 spin set I use JM 80lb oval and size 7 owner hyper wire splits. Simply so I can change spools between jigging and deepwater softbaiting with out having to cut the leader.

I use uni with heavy wall heatshrink sleeve to protect the leader to solid knot. If there was such a thing as clear thimbles I'd probably use those but they all seem to be lumo.
why not lumo?


Just seems daft to have something so visual above all the gear you are using to attract fish. Seem like an ideal way to loose jigs to coutta.


thought about that way too.. but couldnt confirm as I always get hit by them snakes with or w/o lumo thimbles when they are around.. You can get metal U or O metal ring thimbles.. saw a couple from smartmarine and sailors corner that I still have to try.
Its not that far from the jig what can be half lumo or more and you think the coutta will go for the littel thimbles not the jig?


They hit PR knots....... so possibly.

It might not make a difference but I'd rather reduce the chances. I also like the thought of rigging so my jig looks as close to a fish as possible.  A big lumo blob in front of a fish just doen't seem that natural. I don't use squid skirts either for that same reason.
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Don't bother with the metal thimbles bro, they can twist and end up cutting your leader, had one cut through half of that 150lb yozuri fluro leader I use.
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thanks for the heads up Bud.. not gonna try them then.. I thought about using those clear tubings you get from the gardening dept instead. Saves heaps of pennies compare to the lumo thimbles.
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Hmm...some good food for thought there ,thanks guys,so cuddas hit pr knots aswellShocked
 
will be picking up the rod/reel this week(more like tomorrow if i can),looks like i will have to get some heavier trace material too,any particular brand good for tying?
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Originally posted by Kenshin Kenshin wrote:

thanks for the heads up Bud.. not gonna try them then.. I thought about using those clear tubings you get from the gardening dept instead. Saves heaps of pennies compare to the lumo thimbles.

Thats what I use works great and as you only use less than 2 cm per knot its cheap as chips
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