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    Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 12:19pm
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"The haul was commercial in scale. The man had more than three times the daily limit of both flounder and oysters,'' Rudsdale said.

"On top of that, the man was fishing with a net that was 178 metres long. The maximum legal length for a flounder net is 60 metres. The way the oysters were packed in punnets and the length of the net indicate the illegal catch was destined for the commercial market.

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Now to watch and see what judge hands out a wet bus ticket??
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Glad to see his black market operation is now closed. Angry
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When I see offending at this level I wonder if it is really appropriate to prosecute the offender as a recreational fisher.  He was commercially harvesting the resource, and they seem pretty sure he was packaging the stuff to sell.  He should really be prosecuted as a commercial fisher would be for breaking the rules.  And Inland Revenue should be going through his accounts very carefully, then the Police should look at seizing property under the proceeds of crime act if he can't prove he earned it lawfully.

Just prosecuting him as a recreational fisher exceeding daily limits seems quite lenient.
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It will be interesting to see what happens to this thieving scumbag. It's a commercial operation for sure. Probably one of many similar operations going on throughout New Zealand. When I see poaching, I pot them, and I go out of my way to do it. Cheers
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Originally posted by Kevin.S Kevin.S wrote:

When I see offending at this level I wonder if it is really appropriate to prosecute the offender as a recreational fisher.  He was commercially harvesting the resource, and they seem pretty sure he was packaging the stuff to sell.  He should really be prosecuted as a commercial fisher would be for breaking the rules.  And Inland Revenue should be going through his accounts very carefully, then the Police should look at seizing property under the proceeds of crime act if he can't prove he earned it lawfully.

Just prosecuting him as a recreational fisher exceeding daily limits seems quite lenient.


Exactly..
Then there is provision for police to seize assets that MAY HAVE been obtained from illegal activity, then apply to the courts to have them confiscated...

A far easier , cheaper way to the taxpayer than a full on IRD investigation and prosecution..without the same requirement of proof.

I see they took his boat and few bits and pieces, assume under the fisheries legislation.
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Well said Kevin.

Just burns my arse these buggers.
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You have to laugh though. He was fishing at a commercial level the article says which is ok for a commercial fisherman so you can’t prosecute him as a commercial fisherman. He has to be prosecuted as a recreational fisherman for exceeding recreational rules obviously and yes it will be the usual wet bus ticket.
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Should do like they do to drug dealers. Take all their assets which they have gained by way of illegal activity...
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Originally posted by Mr Moritz Mr Moritz wrote:

Should do like they do to drug dealers. Take all their assets which they have gained by way of illegal activity...

They will Morry, or at least this is the beginning, as to how much he gets prosecuted is up to our wet bus ticket judges...

Below from the new article above...

The man will face charges under the Fisheries Act and his boat, fishing nets and a vehicle have been seized.
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yeah his dingy will be seized. That'll teach him.
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Must be a larger boat to carry 160 odd mtrs of netting I'd think. What an arseholio. Wonder how long he has been raping it for,a long time I'd say.
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Just another self entitled asshole.I read on another site this has been going on for a while.obviously had a market for it.
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