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I've had a fishing fascination since I was a little kid, I remember my dad taking me fishing for eels at 3 or 4 years old in the river that runs through Te Kuiti where we lived then. I remember showing my grandad a book of fishes (I was under 5 years old) pointing to a giant fish and telling him I wanted to catch one of those. In that book it was a tunny - an old name for an Atlantic bluefin tuna (I think) but I recall a run of big tuna off the UK was referenced to. Over the years that desire to catch a big fish morphed into a yellow fin tuna.

My grandad's contribution to my 4 yr old self was to say that his favourite fish was flounder. Flounder on bread and butter Big smile. I agree with the flounder part, it certainly is one of my all time favourites but yeah the bread and butter thing was a hit way back then. Simpler times.

I also remember the first time I saw a trout, it was a rainbow in the river that runs through Raetihi, where his parents lived and my dad grew up. There were two big fish that my dad pointed out to me and I can still picture those in my head. Up until then my fishing experience was limited to short fin eels, parore, yems, spotties and stuff like that. 

I left fishing when I was 20 and motorcycles took over my life for a short time until I realised I could combine the two. I'd ride the metal road to Whatipu doing slides and stuff (hoon), occasionally not taking bait or lures just looking for shellfish for bait. I learned that kahawai were easy to catch as were red moki.

I don't do nearly as much fishing as I used to. Sometimes I have actually gone 8 weeks without a line in the water and that all comes down to time and other 'stuff'. I do a lot of shooting now for fallow deer and that satisfies the killer instinct, but I still prefer fishing.

I am a life member of Counties Sport Fishing Club and active here like you guys so it has become my life yet I see so many people who really put in a much bigger effort than myself but my family do get tired of two fish meals a week & two venison cook ups. I have to admit, 4 days of fish in a row has me yearning some red meat and I don't like the concept of fishing just to let them go although I released many fish over the weekend the ultimate goal was to get some eaters and supply some deserving people with a meal they often can't afford. 

This week five families have had a treat and a friend of my wife's gets two spotted dog fish (her favourite). She struggles to make ends meet, is a  solo mum  with three dependants at home one of whom is a very damaged young lady and Lynn gets like 1 weekend a year to herself and she comes fishing with us on that day. Her favourite fish are those spotty dogs.

That's why I do it. 

Let's hear your stories.






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Mate - I could post her a suitcase of spotted doggies. And all my mates could too.
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I give 90% of my fish away. Sometimes - tho not the plan, I end up eating none of my fish. Family had organised special roast, people coming for dinner and I gave all the other fillets way etc.
Why do I fish?
I love spending time on the water, and if you have a line in as well, you never know what might happen. And you see some real cool stuff - like marlin swimming under your boat - or a big sunfish doing same, or the time I got splashed by a humpback I nearly run over, dragging lures. And then, some fishing days are just epic. And I have taken mates out on some epic gamefishing days - never touched a rod myself and had one of the best days.
Thats why I fish. I fish lots solo - just enjoying being on the water and coming up with a plan and accepting the challenge. Equally I enjoy introducing others to the adrenalin and appreciation of what it is - gamefishing, or the kid I took out at Xmas to catch his first kingi, jigging. I never touched a rod - I got as much from that as he did.
Then you meet great guys and spend time with them like Bazza. Awesome.
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Lots of reasons, but you either have the burning passion to fish or you don't. I've had it since I could walk. My father didn't have it and sadly, neither does my son, but they enjoy it to some degree.
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For me I simply just love being out catching a feed, be it shell fish or a nice feed of snapper. Something nearly primal about it. As MB says your either in to it or not.

I always feel better after I come off the water even if it’s been a **** day and I’ve caught nothing. Great to be out with a couple of mates telling lies and pulling the piss out of each other, but I still enjoy the days when I’m just out by myself, in my little 13 footer fishing the way I want to where I want to. Been fishing pretty much all my life really and couldn’t imagine not going fishing.
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Why do I do it?Been sailing most of my life and cannot beat the silence yet moving.Went out on one of the ex americas cup yachts,sure doing 14knts in a 80 ft yacht seems incredible but just didnt do it for me.6/7knts is respectable for under 30ft.Mostly solo and when it goes wrong thats when the challenge starts
Last 8 yrs brought a couple of power boats and up till recently enjoyed the fishing side of life. Last 2 yrs having a little v13 on a flat day doing dounuts and mounting your own wake nothing beats being a hoon,cant do it on land so why not do it away in the middle of the sea with no one yelling slow,friggen clown.

Oh 2 or 3 fish regardless of species for a feed or give away to neighbours(idling 2s and smoke must get annoying and plinking in the backyard)

Limited time the trailer boat has become appealing and no more worries when its blowing of hoping the mooring holding.

Fishing is just something we were brought up with,bit like snapper and more snapper when growing rest was treated as fishbait/cat food but now realise snapper is catfood and gurnard/trevally etc are very edible indeed if treated right.




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great thread / question Smudge.

The core thing for me is just being near/on/under the water.  

As a spearo I like to jump in and see stuff up close.  It is both a bit of a challenge and exercise as well allowing you to see how fish behave.  I have had some great days where I have speared one (or zero) fish - e.g. when a mate rang me and said "I need to run in my new boat - lets go to Barrier on Monday" so we took the day off work and did a run out  to GBI.  It was a magic day on the water - saw dolphins, got buzzed by a seal and more.  I came home with 1 snapper for a feed.

Another epic day was a trip out to the Mokes.  On the way out we noticed some big splashes and flashes of white - there were manta rays cruising round!.  We quickly geared up and took turns swimming.  I got to see them spiraling round under me and it felt like they were checking me out as much as I was checking them out.  Out at the Mokes we had 3 pods of dolphins cruising round, saw a shark, speared kingfish, snapper and butterfish.  On the way back we spotted the mantas again.  Moss had stayed in his togs so he lumped in with just a mask and snorkel and had another swim with them (ex-Olympic swimmer - he is a machine in the water).  Not long after that we spotted a Brydes whale (kept our distance as you are supposed to).  Days like that are soooo good.

Then there are times like last weekend.  I had committed to doing Coastguard on Sunday so had planned to do stuff round the house on Saturday but ...  

We woke up on Saturday morning and decided it was too nice not to go out so launched the boat and went for a bit of a float round.  I left my spearfishing gear at home and just took rods this time.  Shelly and I didn't catch any keepers but it was still a great few hours out.  

Sunday was a day out with Coastguard.  We did some navigation practical exercises without the use of GPS (ended up about 300m off our destination after manually plotting our start position and a running a course with compass bearings, time and speed calculations) then a bit of close quarter maneuvering (CQM) training - this time the skipper used a 10m line looped round the top of one of the degaussing buoys in the Tiri channel and the person on the helm had to move the boat in a full circle round the buoy without the skipper having to let go of the line (effectively he had to be within 5m of the buoy the whole time).  This was a bit of a challenge.  Later we had a tasking to take assist a yacht with a dead engine back into the marina and into their berth.  It was great to be on the water learning some stuff as well as helping folks out.

All of the above days tick my boxes for why I do stuff.
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All very cool stories. 

PM, Moss as in Moss Burmester?
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From age 14 I loved deer hunting. One of the things I loved, was the sense of anticipation, that something might happen at any time - and occasionally it did. 
Then about 20 years ago, I became interested in trout fishing - living near Rotorua, I explored many local streams and remote rivers; such as the Waioeka, Mohaka and WHakapapa.
I never thought I would do fishing in the sea -  as on boats I got seasick. Then about 15 years ago, I tried a charter boat trip, loved it; discovered "sealegs" kept the nausea at bay. Ive bought boats and get out about once a fortnight. No sign of seasickness; my body regards being on the sea as normal.
SInce, Ive moved north to Whangaparaoa, and given up trout fishing as its too far to go for me. I would still be hunting - but, my lifetime hunting mates have died. I tried a deer hunt, but my hips played up, so thats out.
Anyway - the common thread is hunting - which involves physical exploration. Not interested in standing in a lake and casting for trout;  moving along a river is what turns me on. On the sea, I tend to move around a lot, probably too much possibly.
I am not a big fan of eating fish; but its all consumed, by rellies etc.
How much longer can I run a boat, I wonder.  
 
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i love fishing, all of my life ,hand lines as a kid, then saved up and bought a surf casterafter all those lawn i mowed in the area, but now it the price of running the ute and boat, im old and the money is not the there to blow, but if its in you ,you have to do it.fishing is a great bit of fun, fresh fish is so nice and if a big one you can not go past smoked fish ,pie or on crackers
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Originally posted by lingee lingee wrote:

i love fishing, all of my life ,hand lines as a kid, then saved up and bought a surf casterafter all those lawn i mowed in the area, but now it the price of running the ute and boat, im old and the money is not the there to blow, but if its in you ,you have to do it.fishing is a great bit of fun, fresh fish is so nice and if a big one you can not go past smoked fish ,pie or on crackers

Agree 100%, that's very close to where I am
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Originally posted by Phantom Menace Phantom Menace wrote:

Yep

wow that's cool. Must be tricky keeping up!
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I just love being out on the water.
In it under it, around it.
Fishing is a secondary for me, if I come home with a feed, awesome, occasionally I will actually target something and get serious, but usually just out to enjoy the day, talk rubbish with mates, or enjoy the silence of being alone.
I have always had a fascination with water and boats.
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Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

I just love being out on the water.
In it under it, around it.
Fishing is a secondary for me, if I come home with a feed, awesome, occasionally I will actually target something and get serious, but usually just out to enjoy the day, talk rubbish with mates, or enjoy the silence of being alone.
I have always had a fascination with water and boats.

Nice. Some common themes emerging here. There is one thing we all share in common so far. We've all been in this for the long run. Awesome stuff guys Handshake
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I suspect very few Fishos discover it late in life. I remember at about 5 yrs old my grandma in ChCh taking me fishing to the Lyttelton wharf. Train trip thru the tunnel, string cord handline. Pulled up some spotty things. And a few herrings And she cooked them for me. That was it. I remember casting for trout in the Avon river. Some rod some random guy gave me (she had a boarding house) - was a tapered steel thing from memory. Would walk down to the Avon on my own in ChCh and spend a morning trying to catch trout. No license required.
Age 5-8 yrs old.
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Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

I suspect very few Fishos discover it late in life. I remember at about 5 yrs old my grandma in ChCh taking me fishing to the Lyttelton wharf. Train trip thru the tunnel, string cord handline. Pulled up some spotty things. And a few herrings And she cooked them for me. That was it. I remember casting for trout in the Avon river. Some rod some random guy gave me (she had a boarding house) - was a tapered steel thing from memory. Would walk down to the Avon on my own in ChCh and spend a morning trying to catch trout. No license required.
Age 5-8 yrs old.
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An aerial off a Sherman tank was what my dad used in his younger days. Again, simpler times
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Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

... string cord handline ... 

Sheer luxury,  Wink  I recall using bent nails as hooks when eeling.  Good times. 

Those green cotton handlines caused havoc on the charter boats in the old days due to the drag they created compared to others fishing with mono.  
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When I was born, my parents were sent a telegram that was short and simple: "Congratulations, another fisherman". How true that turned out to be.

I agree with MB and other posters - I think it's in your blood.

My grandparents on my father's side were working class and did it tough in Depression era NZ, but had a boat and fished for food and I guess the enjoyment of it in the Manukau - rowing a dinghy huge distances apparently. My dad was born and grew up in Onehunga and went on their outings from the time he was a toddler. He has fished all his life, had small boats throughout adulthood and still wants to get out in his late 80s. He is a meat hunter at heart, still a child of the late Depression.

I spent hours fishing off wharves and rocks as a kid, and going out in the boat with dad to target snapper. We usually took a boat with us on summer holidays at Oamaru Bay, Port Jackson and Coopers Beach. My mum said that any time we went out for a family dinner my meal choice was not negotiable - fish and chips.

I became totally fascinated with fly fishing as a teenager, saved up for some gear using holiday earnings, and taught myself casting and fly tying out of books. 
When in my OE, I grabbed the chance to fish if I could borrow a line, rod, whatever. Kob off the coast of Namibia; piranha in the Amazon.
I finally got my own small runabout four years ago and still find it hard to sleep the night before a trip. The thrill of hooking a big fish always gives me a surge of adrenaline. My name is The Tamure Kid, and I'm an addict!

As others have touched on, I also love the outdoors, the beach, the coast. My wife is the same, and we bought a house with a distant sea view. Out on the water, I love and appreciate the bird and other wildlife, and the natural beauty - whether it be storm clouds, dawn light, sunsets, whatever.

My theory is that some people carry a hunter gather gene more strongly than others, and I'm one of them, as are you Smudge, and others on this thread. When I travelled to the wilderness parts of Africa I was noticeably better at game spotting than others, picking out shapes of animals a long way away after a quick glimpse through a gap between bushes, or out of the corner of my eye.
i'm not saying that to boast, but as a pointer to something I think is genetic.

So today I fish for food and the thrill, always scheming about how to catch big snapper on softbaits, while also bringing home a feed. I love going flounder spearing a couple of times a year, totally focused on the hunt and the solitude of the estuary at night. Squid, yip tried that too.
I still do the odd fly fishing trip, combined with family holidays. Love it. 

I have spent more than I care to think about on tackle and rods/reels, including a lot which was just part of a passing fad and will likely never get used. George Best's quote about spending a fortune on booze and women etc comes to mind - the bit about the rest he wasted. Just the ritual of placing a new lure into my fishing tackle cupboard, dreaming about one day catching a kingie on it, for example, was probably worth the money - especially at a time when my fishing was limited for some reason. I was fulfilling my passion in another way.

I also love taking my boys out in the boat. The older one has it in his blood too. He carried around sticks at kindy, pretending they were fishing rods. He too has seemingly endless patience when out fishing. 
I just want to be fit and able to enjoy going out on missions with my boys as they become adults, like my father before me, and his father before him - and for our waters to still have fish to catch.

[At Mill Bay jetty, Mangonui Harbour, circa 1974 - with my Kilwell Imp rod, which I'd got for Christmas. Still have it in the garage]



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Awesome.
And there is another whole world that just does not get it. Weird.
Are they weird, or is it us?
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Yep great photo, brings me back to when I started fishing.. nothing like “expectation” of what might happen off wharf, rock, beach,  or boat. You can dream about what you might achieve and may be it might happen. And eventually with enough luck, skill and learnings it used to be what was realistically possible would happen to you.
Ti Point Wharf was was where I started seriously, used to be lot going on in those days there in the 70s.
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