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Ok, I notice in photos everybody has different styles of gimbals.
I have a BM Equalizer, is this suitable? If not why, and what is an appropriate one?

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I've found that ARMPIT is the best brand by far....cheap as well!
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Agreed Kezza. I also took some fullas out who used those JM belts and the metal gimball seriously scratched up the side of my boat.
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Excerpt of an article from a mag, written by Josh Morrison
 
Gimbal belts
There are basically two types of gimbal belts suitable for jigging: high-mounted and low-slung belts. 
High-mounted belts: High-mounted belts are best suited to trailerboat jiggers, where we often back the boat up and fight the fish straight up and down. In this instance, having a belt that’s high-mounted allows a flatter and safer rod angle of between 45° or less when fighting fish.
Try fighting a fish straight up and down with a low-slung belt; it almost forces you to high stick the rod, as the butt section sits so low down that – even after extending your arm out as far out as possible – you can’t get the rod down flat enough, so risk point-loading it.

Low-slung belts
Low-slung belts come into their own when fishing on any of the big charter boats such as Pursuit, Enchanter, Oracle, Cascade etc, as when drift fishing from these boats side-on, your line angles straight out in front and away from you. This allows you to safely use your rod at angles of up to 75° at times, depending on where your line is.

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Short answer is BM is made to sit low,too low.It is great for stand up but not jigging,because of its low positioning,you need somthing that can be adjusted and worn higher to change rod angles.
 
Armpit,guts,Dynatec are cheap options...JM,seven seas are nice options.
 
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Try not to get too hung up on gimbals, use what suits your boat. This can be tested whilst still at the ramp, put the gimbal on and then load up a rod through it and see how it feels.
Never i repeat never be in a rush to put your rod in a gimbal, i see so many fish lost when guys are going for the gimbal and it is frustrating, take your time and only go for the gimbal when there is some load on the rod. NO SLACKLINE please
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correct Ginga - I see heaps of guys trying to awkwardly wrestle their rod butts in to the gimbal knock seconds after the bite before getting any kind of control.....the end result is normally a lost fish...the other thing that gimbals seem to do is encourage 'high sticking'......In my opinion by all means wear one (something like the cheap Shimano or Dyantec belts serve the purpose) and use it when you need some sort of hiatus.
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Personally I like the old "Grim-balls" that you clip onto your rod-butt. They are not too much of a pain to leave on there while using the rod jigging (or whatever), andprovide all the padding you need for cushioning and holding the rod firmly.

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Originally posted by SAL72 SAL72 wrote:

Low-slung belts
Low-slung belts come into their own when fishing on any of the big charter boats such as Pursuit, Enchanter, Oracle, Cascade etc, as when drift fishing from these boats side-on, your line angles straight out in front and away from you. This allows you to safely use your rod at angles of up to 75° at times, depending on where your line is.
Have to disagree with Josh on this.  You can still jig from a high belt when line is out wide. Low slung belts are never a good option for any jigging scenario.  When line angle is too wide, then wind up and drop again.
If you still want options, then go for the JM gimbal plate which has a high and low mount for your gimbal.
 
CaptA - I originally used the SOKIT which is the original rod butt gimbal and found that the big fish we were encountering still put too much pressure on a tender body part!  At times the Sokit would come off the gimbal while jigging and fighting which is exactly what you don't want to see happen.
 
It did not take long before I found a proper gimbal belt was much more comfortable and reliable.
But that is just my opinion.    
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Possibly so Chris, possibly so... although in my case, of course, there is so much padding around the Grim-ball (yes, I remember the sokits too) and my "contact point" that it seems pretty much fixed and immovable on me.
I suppose for skinny types like you, there may be more room for play :-). On more Reubenesque types like me, the grimball forms itself into a perfect little round divot in the general region of "down there", and needs a Jimmy-bar to pop it out some times :-)
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Originally posted by Kezza Kezza wrote:

correct Ginga - I see heaps of guys trying to awkwardly wrestle their rod butts in to the gimbal knock seconds after the bite before getting any kind of control.....the end result is normally a lost fish...the other thing that gimbals seem to do is encourage 'high sticking'......In my opinion by all means wear one (something like the cheap Shimano or Dyantec belts serve the purpose) and use it when you need some sort of hiatus.

i leave it a fair old while to go for the gimbal  as well but for another reason.....i like to keep it under arm and pointing down as its less strain on your arms/upper body......in other words go for it king and i will just have a rest while you take off! Once they have expelled a lot of their energy and i have been getting some winds on them....then i think about going for the belt...i tend to wear my belt reasonably high too.......I dont like to use the rod much,just to lift the fish and let the reel do what its designed to do....Just my two cents worth.
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My cheap plastic ($20) gimbal has never let me down, its comfortable and small. I like running big drags so fighting underarm for duration not really an option, rod gos into gimbal once I know for sure the fished is hooked up solid.

Find those sokit things pretty unco and definitely not ideal if you are jigging all day.
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I think personnal preference , disposable income and body shape all play a part in getting a gimble belt that works for you.
 I have a preference for a low slung belt, my disposable income alowed me to get a Dynatech gimble which proved difficult for me to use owing to the height at which it sat.
I took an old gun sling belt and doctored it to suit, including some stainless snap connectors for easy removal or addition of the Gimble. It has suited me fine, even being used to subdue very stupid marlin. My abillity to spawn remains intact!!




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I have been having my rods built with these rubber gimbals from batson.  The best of both worlds and no belt needed.


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wouldn't think that gimble would be much diff than having a ally one with a rubber butt cap over it
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Ive got no gimbal knocks on jig rods under 300g  just round alps butts. you will always gain more line off the king at the start of the fight by shortpumping with the rod under your arm than you will by having it in the gimbal IMHO

Have a look at smitty's belts on the american websites. great design and wouldnt be hard to make one up yourself. we use them for everything up to 80lb then bring out the aftco or bm gimbals
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depends on how tall you are too i reckon.
On enchanter a few weeks ago every one had a different gimbal belt.
One of the blokes had a black magic equaliser and spent the whole trip high sticking kings with me standing beside him waiting to get a graphite shower. Would be a good belt if your about 6'3, tall enough to clear the gunwales.
i use an old topgun gimbal belt. Fits around at waist height and suits me perfectly.
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Originally posted by grant34882 grant34882 wrote:

depends on how tall you are too i reckon.
On enchanter a few weeks ago every one had a different gimbal belt.

One of the blokes had a black magic equaliser and spent the whole trip high sticking kings with me standing beside him waiting to get a graphite shower. Would be a good belt if your about 6'3, tall enough to clear the gunwales.

i use an old topgun gimbal belt. Fits around at waist height and suits me perfectly.


So what you are saying is it is a height thing also? I am 6'4 so does this mean the equalizer would be suitable?
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