If you get stuck on a beach retrieve?
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Topic: If you get stuck on a beach retrieve?
Posted By: Godders
Subject: If you get stuck on a beach retrieve?
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 7:01pm
| Does anyone have tools.like grip boards ,forward winch?or if you put drop sheet under your tyres? |
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 7:11pm
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Max Trax and drop your tyres down to 15-18psi...... At least thats what we do here, with beach launching and retrieving... ocassioanally even these dont work and a snatch strap is needed. I should have mentioned I also have a short handled shovel and ARB compressor permanently mounted in the truck. I've had nightmares involving my truck being swallowed by one of the 10m tides we get here,and so invested to improve the quality of my sleep ------------- "I love standing by the ocean and just knowing what its for" |
Posted By: KikBac
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 7:37pm
Take the rubber mat out of your boot, place under drive wheels and drive up it 
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Posted By: dalgo
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 8:01pm
| I have a couple of 6 ft boards and a spade in the back of my van, only had to use them twice. |
Posted By: Barrie
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 8:14pm
| Im gutless and use a concrete ramp |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 10:10pm
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUUckU-vAqI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUUckU-vAqI |
Posted By: dalgo
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 11:27pm
| That's a great tip |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 11:44pm
Maybe on grass like in the video  not up to your running boards or hubs in wet, muddy sand on a N.Z beach.Shovel and maxtrax / treads are going to be 1000 times more effective if you are alone and don't have someone who can snatch you, or don't have a winch and something to winch off. (speaking from experience / my own cock ups  ) |
Posted By: mmmm...
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 11:24am
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Get a winch and a land anchor. if you get stuck just dig that land anchor into the sand and winch yourself out. the only fail safe way if your beach launching by yourself. Check you tube ------------- buying usless exspensive fishing gear is my second favourite hobby. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 11:40am
10m tides! Holy!!! That would make fishing/launching/swimming/surfing/diving/shellfish gathering all pretty tricky ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Titahi wrote:Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 11:45am
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Godders - you have a fc430 dont you.? A 30m good quality tow rope should be hel ful in most situations for that sized boat. I tow with my wifes camry and Im not allowed to get that wet - one up I use the tow rope occasionally when I need to on my small fc.
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Posted By: petethemeat
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 11:46am
Grain of salt perhaps. http://www.linz.govt.nz/sea/tides/introduction-tides/tides-around-new-zealand" rel="nofollow - http://www.linz.govt.nz/sea/tides/introduction-tides/tides-around-new-zealand Found this really interesting though. ------------- 
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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 11:54am
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Couple of things I've founded, mid tide seems to be better as the sand is normally a bit harder in that part of the beach and the incoming is better. Try not to get your car tires in the water as the wave action can sink your your wheels in. Get a drawbar extension made up there plenty of pictures on the net. I'm gunna make one that either extends or folds out and goes up into the coupling so I can take it off and stick it on the boot. The other thing I always do is when you pull the boat our, take off on an angle so you pull out one of the trailer wheels at a time. I some time also backup a little first once the boat is on to push the trailer wheels out where it has sunk in. And keep the speed nice and slow don't panic and put your foot into it or you will be in the cr?p. As they have said above if the wheels start to dig in I stop and let the tires down so there's just enough air to keep the rims off the sand and enough tire pressure to drive to the petrol station. I got a cheap 12v pump from repco, works good. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 11:59am
I'm pretty sure Titahi is in Australia, I know parts of the west and possibly northern Australia have huge tides. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: petethemeat
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 12:05pm
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Apologies! 😳 Didn't think of that. Brother worked in Koolan island mine before it flooded and was telling me about the massive tides they had up there. -------------
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 3:36pm
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Pete thats just up the road from us here in Broome, their tides are the largest in the southern hemisphere @ 11m on springs.... Certainly makes for entertainment and the use of some urgent chatter when launching or retrieving. Heres a story from the ABC about how cars get swallowed. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-27/concern-at-cost-of-cars-swallowed-by-sea-in-far-north-wa/7205288" rel="nofollow - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-27/concern-at-cost-of-cars-swallowed-by-sea-in-far-north-wa/7205288 and a video for anyone with FB http://https://www.facebook.com/abcnews.au/videos/10154825723299988/" rel="nofollow - http://https://www.facebook.com/abcnews.au/videos/10154825723299988/ ------------- "I love standing by the ocean and just knowing what its for" |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 3:51pm
"Urgent chatter"  ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 5:26pm
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As I've found out when snatching a bloke of the beach not so long ago, you really need to brief the unfortunate in what's going to happen, don't assume they know it might be a violent yank on the 2nd and 3rd pull. and they need to know that they have to be in gear and be trying to spin the wheels. my trick is to walk the sand first if I'm at all worried, if I am I usually lock the diffs up or just push the boat in on the trailer and use a retied abseiling rope for retrieval (200 metres of 12mm) ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: Godders
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 6:12pm
| What about chains on tyres like in the snow,I carry two lengths of rope one for high and one for low tides with bowline knots on each end and colored tape showing each type.but I still got stuck due to rushing and being lazy.So I learnt to take the trailer off first .but maybe carrying a couple of boards .but I've seen a guy put boards under a stuck car and they shot out the back and hit people pushing in the shins. |
Posted By: CanadianJohn
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 6:17pm
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i like the one lethal posted a video of. great also for those pesky auckland bicyclists! |
Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 11:08pm
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Im spoiled in that i use a tractor on the beach, even though, i have to be careful with a two tonne boat when the sand can be a bit sinky...i tend to use a crawler gear and not actually stop when on the soft sinky sand... using a rope, quit soon if you are skidding, soft tires and ulljng the boat trailer hitch sideways are all great methods. i have helped guys stuck on our beach, simply by unhooking their trailer, ushing the 4wd out, then getting them to back in and right angles to the trailer, dropping it on the ball and pulling it sideways quickly... ------------- you can't fix an idiot with duct tape, but it does muffle them for a while... |
Posted By: Jaapie
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 11:30am
Bloody clever that!  Wish I'd known about that trick about 3 months ago, although a longer rope would have been handy. Might pay to use camels though instead of vehicles  ------------- "Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught,will we realize that we cannot eat money" - 19th Century Indian Creed |
Posted By: strx7
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 2:45pm
| I always make sure I have all 3 diffs engages by the time the trailer reaches the water. if i should ever get stuck Ill just detach the boat & trailer, get the cruiser unstuck then hook the strop onto the trailer to retrieve. I have a 30+m winch on the front of the cruiser as a plan C. |
Posted By: Hsvl
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 5:58pm
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Just curious to see what people think of 4x2 ute with a diff locker? ------------- It hit like a freight train, line peeling and drag screaming the rod now doubled with a tell tail nodding and Salt thickening within the veins. |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 7:33pm
Just checking you are meaning 4 wheels, but just driving the rear 2? or are you meaning part time 4wd, with a locker in the rear or front only? Have heard people use '4x2'to describe both of those that's all... Depends, anything can and will still get stuck in the right / wrong conditions / what you try to drive through. |
Posted By: Hsvl
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 8:52pm
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Sorry should have mentioned that. Say for example one of the new 2wd hi rider ranger/bt50 that have a rear locking diff. Do people find its more having the ability to drive the 4 wheels that makes more of a difference than being able to lock the rear driving wheels together? Would you rather have a locking 2wd or a 4x4 without locking diffs? ------------- It hit like a freight train, line peeling and drag screaming the rod now doubled with a tell tail nodding and Salt thickening within the veins. |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 9:29pm
Gotcha, just my 2c based on my experiences, 4wd would be better, even if only part time 4wd( spinning both on one side, or two on one end of vehicle and one on other end). Drive isn't just at one end off the vehicle, and spread over a larger area, whatever you are driving on may be softer or harder at one end of the vehicle more than the other, which would be the case in alot of beach launching situations if back wheels are in soft/wet sand or off the end of a ramp. Would definately make a difference over alot of standard diffs, but i'd still put my money on a townie type SUV/AWD vehicle a CRV, Territory etc over a 2wd ute. Not bagging by the way mate, just saying |
Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 9:40pm
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To be honest, my friend's Landcruiser in 2wd with the rear locker on would go more places than my Surf in 4x4 with the **** Toyota LSD in the back. Most soft-roaders, if you completely bog them, will give you 1wd. |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 9:43pm
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Also tyres can make a decent difference, tyres like bridgestone dueler HT / AT or similar that many new utes come with are pretty average in sand or mud( despite many people that say all terrains are better than mud terrains on sand due to thinking they have a larger contact patch to spread weight, it's just not true, not only from my personal experience but hardcore 4wd guys and tyre companys, has been proven to be false time and time again) a decent set of mud terrains or all terrians will gernerally clear mud & sand alot better than stock tyres. In saying that any tyres will still clog up at a certain stage of getting stuck though, more so if you are on/in silty & muddy harbour sand(like the stuff you get near mangroves - bloody stuff is terrible to get out of, way worse than deep mud) Tyre pressure can also make a very big difference too as others have already mentioned. |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 9:54pm
Not doubting that Rozboon, can sometimes be down to other factors though, weight distribution, tyres, tyre pressures, gearing, torque, so many things come into play. I also agree, if you bog alot of the AWD SUV's yeah they will only spin 1 and sometimes 2 wheels with full drive, but that is if you bog them, I was more meaning in terms of not getting bogged, and stuck to begin with. They certainly don't tend to have the same sort of ground clearance for starters as a 'proper'4wd, but having even partial drive at both ends of the vehicle is a huge advantage in most cases to 2wd, whether it be a lsd, or full locked/ 2way diff. |
Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 31 May 2016 at 9:27am
Indeed, lots of factors come into it... another good example is a light wee Suzuki with 31x10.5s will go a lot of places that a big hulking Landy or Patrol will get bogged even on say 35x12.5s Most soft-roaders suffer from having open or very sloppy LSD differentials - if 1 wheel loses all grip then it will get all the power. If you have drive to the rear wheels then a few clicks of handbrake can go a long way towards getting both wheels spinning again. Likewise a bit of left-foot-brake pressure can help fool the diffs into actually spreading the power around a bit.
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Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 31 May 2016 at 10:09am
True that, mates got a suzuki jimny, will go most places my 1900kg SWB pajero will go. |
Posted By: CanadianJohn
Date Posted: 31 May 2016 at 10:16am
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"If you have drive to the rear wheels then a few clicks of handbrake can go a long way towards getting both wheels spinning again. Likewise a bit of left-foot-brake pressure can help fool the diffs into actually spreading the power around a bit." thanks dude, never knew that. have a subaru awd and that could come in handy one day! |
Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 31 May 2016 at 11:03am
I'll put a caveat on that - if you have a modern automatic AWD then pulling the handbrake causes the electronic centre diff to go wide open so you lose ALL drive to the rear, so you have to use the foot brake. If you have a manual though, give it death
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Posted By: Barbary B
Date Posted: 31 May 2016 at 1:38pm
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I carry a long handled shovel - for getting access to the towing eye of whoever I'm towing which is usually buried, a sliding jack (for lifting the wheels and getting boards under them) and boards. I have done a few snatch strap rescues from narrowneck and you are right that it is always good to communicate with the driver as I have seen their eyes bulge in fear when the strap takes effect and they are propelled out of the hole I have once got stuck myself - well actually the trailer sunk into the sand and even the landrover couldn't pull it out, but once unhooked and diffs locked it sprayed the whole beach with sand and extracted itself to much clapping.Then the snap strap on the trailer at an angle solved the problem. One other trick while extracting a stuck trailer/boat is to release the trailer winch cable about a foot and have the boat slide back and raise the coupling so the jockey wheel doesn't dig in. The defender has another neat trick that I haven't tried yet which is an anti stall - so technically it can drive itself out as per this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gttVJIyAdR8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gttVJIyAdR8 ------------- "Look ahead, look astern, look to weather, look to lea Look down along the coast of High Barbary..." |
Posted By: notalloyit
Date Posted: 31 May 2016 at 3:22pm
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Watched some cunning old buggers beach launch over pea gravel, with a front wheel drive ! Secret! a roll of hurricane fencing wire laid out, down ya go launch boat, up ya come, roll up and hide til you get back for retrieve, absolutely classic, wouldn't have thought of this in a million years. Of course, it spreads the load, easy eh? ------------- BNS Design & Print LTD 0800 733 000 for all printing needs, special rates for website members. Free freight NZ wide. |
Posted By: Polar_Kiwis
Date Posted: 31 May 2016 at 4:34pm
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Boat around to nearest concrete ramp.. How i've done it on a calm beach. Beach boat near mid tide mark. Play a game of beach soccer with kids for a bit. Once tide gone out. Unhook trailer from vehicle and wind boat on trailer, rebook trailer to 4wd and off you go...
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Posted By: MJ
Date Posted: 31 May 2016 at 6:53pm
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Unhitch the trailer. Get the vehicle onto solid ground. Rope (strong, doubled) back to the trailer. Tie it both ends with a knot that does not jam. Pull trailer out on an angle so one wheel/wheels pop out first. Carry a longer, heavier rope with you than you think you might need. Rule of thumb I suggest - minimum 50m of rope; at least 2x heavier than your normal anchor rode.
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 31 May 2016 at 9:54pm
The local trailer shop sells a great third wheel drop down kit, which almost evey local has here. The spare wheel is on a small axle that can be pulled out and dropped down, it makes unhitching and launching easy, as is retrieval with a rope. ------------- "I love standing by the ocean and just knowing what its for" |
Posted By: 41 1/2 below
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2016 at 4:24pm
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2016 at 4:34pm
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you'd have to speak to either a fabricator? or maybe Trojan? im 5000km away..... They would be perfect for Kapiti beach launches though ------------- "I love standing by the ocean and just knowing what its for" |
Posted By: snapper14
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2016 at 4:52pm
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the other trick is as soon as your wheels start to spin, stop. All you are doing is digging deeper if you keep going or put your foot up it. As counter intuitive as it is back up half a metre or so as soon as you can and then go again.... try not to wheel spin.... ------------- If a man goes nowhere and theres no one there to see him, did he ever leave? Munter - Outrageous Fortune. |
Posted By: Barbary B
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2016 at 1:55pm
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All you need to know - how not do it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEYaTscCDIg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEYaTscCDIg
------------- "Look ahead, look astern, look to weather, look to lea Look down along the coast of High Barbary..." |
Posted By: petethemeat
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2016 at 3:52pm
Gold! -------------
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Posted By: Godders
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2016 at 4:26pm
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[QUOTE=Barbary B] All you need to know - how not do it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEYaTscCDIg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEYaTscCDIg [/QUOTE Nightmare.] |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2016 at 5:49pm
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What they didn't tell you in the video is that they'd been back and fourth across that a few times (you can see the tracks), but the camera man hadn't got it on film, so they were just going to get a short bit for the camera and be done. . . well ****, that went well. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |