2019 Mitsubishi Triton
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Topic: 2019 Mitsubishi Triton
Posted By: smudge
Subject: 2019 Mitsubishi Triton
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2019 at 9:43pm
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Yeah or nah? And why ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
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Posted By: salty69
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2019 at 10:14pm
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Value for money - 👍 Towing power - 👍 Warranty - 👍 Fuel economy - 👍 It's always going to be personal preference, but I got one last year and wondered why I didnt do it a couple of years earlier. Plenty of plus for the others utes on the market also, so as I said person preference. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 8:19am
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Thanks Salty, I'm hearing nothing but good stuff
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Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 8:40am
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Smudge take a drive to Manukau mitsi you maybe surprised with the deal you may get. Bloke at work brought one last week and he is over the moon,went to buy the 2018?? run out and got a better deal on the 2019 as none of the 2018 available for 2 months.
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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 9:56am
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We looked into a heap of 4x4 ute alternatives.. many beyond budget. Tritons Ssangyong, nissan, toyota, coloarado isuzu etc I have to say, thu , take a LDV for a test run.. It is an experience you will not forget.. When test running take what ever into a full supermarket car parks and park it...The LDV will be an experience.. We settled on the 2.2L Ssangyong.. BUT went across town, Western Ssangyong to buy it... not the local agents as had just been done by commerce commission.. and come across a few ppl who had brought.. bad fitting /sealing ute rear lids/doors miss matched keys etc.. M8 at the same time went for the triton.. and yeah hes still impressed with that.. Takanini agents. Between the 2, both towing power, price .. but dont have all the auto wipers lights addon on stuff the more expensive utes have. It came down to things like cabin noise on a trip, ride, seat comfort for us. Also have a look around our local town/rural area...the number of Ssangyongs .. be it utes or Rextons( same thing except more up market SUV) .. and so many are Pre about 2011/12 Ssangyong where not reliable..post all the engineering changed to European... Either one..would come down to the drive comfort.. PS the Titon has some far, far better colours |
Posted By: Mr Moritz
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 11:40am
| RNZAF at Whenuapai use Tritons |
Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 3:34pm
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Triton are popular as fleet vehicles, as they are cheap, and offer a great warranty. I think mitsi are struggling to stay in the market, they have very small market share elsewhere in the world. Their engines have come a long way, earlier ones were troublesome. I personally did not like their styling, or the very long drawbar distance from the back axle, that doesn't make for a good tow vehicle, but unless you are towing something really heavy...it possibly is a non argument. Lots seem to like them, and have no grizzles.. I'd take a punt.. ------------- you can't fix an idiot with duct tape, but it does muffle them for a while... |
Posted By: dontpanic
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 4:27pm
| The new 2019 face lift looks a lot tougher. |
Posted By: cosmo
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 5:53pm
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saw them at fielddays and wasn't impressed just look ugly and as others have said cheapest out of the lot to try and stay in the market....sticking with the rangers for the moment but must say isuzu are looking good like those new mu s ------------- i just want to go fishing..........amd ignore all my adult problems |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 6:38pm
Thanks guys. Cosmo, I started off wanting the Isuzu. Very much a workhorse and would be my second choice which is odd because to me they are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Quite truck like but the Triton may just make my wife a little happier(smart eh?). We bought a Mitsubishi Lancer 3 or 4 years ago and it just gets used for everyone in my household and it has been the most reliable car clocking up around 300k's so she likes Mitsubishi's. With her onside it makes the process much easier  The Rangers & BT 50's are great but I can't afford one so I'll just write them off as show ponies. The VRXr Mitsis (I think that's the model) are pretty flash but for $7 more I'd probably look at something else. The Nissans are nice too of course and a mate who has one is really happy with his. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 6:39pm
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"Ugly" Is there 'budget" that is not? Even thu we went the Ssangyong route.. it is doesnt have any near the visual appeal of Toyota, Colorado, Isuzu 'muscle'. And definitely not the pop colours. And neither does the new Rino Yep that sweep up at the rear takes away from the profile, but the triton is far better looker than Ssangyong, and has far better 'pop' colours. My view was / is comfort on a long trip. |
Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 8:06pm
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While I know that a lot of the "non-mainstream" brands have come a long long way in the last 5 years or so, buying one is still absolute resale-value-suicide if that's a factor for you. There is no trust in those brands among kiwis generally, it will be another decade of decent vehicles before people in the used vehicle market start to trust them. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2019 at 9:51pm
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Rozboon wrote:Posted By: dontpanic
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 7:52am
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Ahh yes resale, that will explain why Ssangyong dealers areoffering a "Brand Spanking Used" vehicle option similar to the Signature program that Toyota was running here. They have been advertising used Korangos on TV like new vehicles backed with some kind of warranty, building some trust in the second hand market for their product, very smart move maybe. |
Posted By: puff
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 8:22am
| As with most things purchased, you get what you pay for... |
Posted By: Boz19
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 9:20am
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The old man has just bought one. Early days but I'm impressed so far. They've definitely sorted out the styling since some of the older models which just looked awful. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: RaggedJoe
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 9:31am
| We run Rangers and Mitsis in the company fleet. Staff prefer Rangers 'cause they look better, more status haha. But the Mitsis have been super reliable and we are still buying them. |
Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 9:33am
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Many of the non main stream brads did not use mainstream compentets...resulting in them going or damn near going bust.. Then they went mainstream...and althu there is still some who live in the past.. not 5yrs but more the 9 to 15yrs (lot happened in that time..) still go the old mentality.. And yeah resale is an issue... IF you are a person with deep pockets and can afford to trade up every couple yrs and/ or just before the 100K km mark. These vehicles over the last decade , now the run main stream European components, are now hitting consistently over the 300,000 kms mark... And unlike older mainstream models , dont need expensive fuel pump upgrades. If you are buying simply for private use, towing the boat, going to work shopping etc, you will most likely be keeping well into the 200K km mark... And if over 50/55 yr, it will most likely last you as your last new vechilce for the next 15/ 20yrs plus Even if it not your last, is re sale really an issue over that length of time? Also crunch the numbers another way.. you spend $65 or $75 plus on a model that holds a higher resale price, you are still going to drop a good $20/30K plus in 5yrs Spend say $40/ $45K on a new non mainstream.. that includes nudge bars, steps, canopy,stone deflector, monsoons etc...you are still going to drop (and most likely less) in real dollar value.. There is a very big difference between perception and actual here in more ways than one. We did the open minded exercise from day one, over a period of around 9 to 12 months, only make the final call when the money from the camaro and vintage cars was in the bank. Even then came down to comfort of ride. OH kept the big horn...and that actually rides a little softer, nice on a trip..will pull a bigger weight (officially) but real crap pulling the weight up a hill on the road...with unloaded economy similar, till start to tow. |
Posted By: Bounty Hunter
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 9:43am
this is the best, most relevant comment of the thread ------------- No disintegrations! |
Posted By: cosmo
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 12:24pm
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they are talking about the overhang over in T/M for towing and making it a bugger of a ute for towing due to the overhang from the rear wheels to the towball
------------- i just want to go fishing..........amd ignore all my adult problems |
Posted By: ramprage
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 6:36pm
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Ssanyong utes have rubbish running gear and a poor 3 year warranty, family member owns one, had the brakes skimmed twice, spent 7 grand on repairs the last time and hadn't done 100 thousand kilometers. Looking now at Toyota or Mitz, warranties playing a big part in the next purchase, 5 years looking better ------------- When the going gets tough...the tough keep going |
Posted By: puff
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 6:47pm
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Posted By: formtool
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 7:15pm
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That would make it easier to clean the back windows on the cab. Anyone have solutions to cleaning those windows, please. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 7:32pm
Hehe yeah seen those pics and the same from Rangers. Pretty sure that didn't happen towing a 1000kg boat around NZ. Looks like Australia, maybe they drove it off Ayers Rock .Have settled on the Mitsubishi. thanks to all for the feedback. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: Dunwurkn
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 7:45pm
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Mr Grey just bought a brand new Mitsubishi Ute and is very happy with the purchase so far. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 7:55pm
Cool! To be fair I'd be pretty happy with any of the major brands. Thanks for the feedback Chris  ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 8:03pm
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Yep just brought one as well, their selling the old model on some hell deals. Brand new Mitzi Ute auto with what they call a trade pack, tow bar canopy 17in alloys, abs apply car play, navigation AC all the fruit $35500 Non of the other main stream dealers could come close |
Posted By: pompey
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 8:09pm
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[QUOTE=Kandrew]Yep just brought one as well, their selling the old model on some hell deals. Brand new Mitzi Ute auto with what they call a trade pack, tow bar canopy 17in alloys, abs apply car play, navigation AC all the fruit $35500 Non of the other main stream dealers could come close That is probably a bit cheaper than a 250hp outboard? A lot of iron for the money.
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 8:23pm
Crazy eh! ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 9:17pm
Yep where do these prices come from for anything with the word marine next to it. We do a bit of sailing, pair of sailing gloves $40.00 go to Mitre10 same type of gloves $10.00. Anyway Mitzi are a great truck at a great price. |
Posted By: JustAnotherSpearo
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2019 at 6:12am
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The negatives to a triton smudge that I can think of is that you wouldnt fit in at Albanys shopping mall because its not a 4wd ranger with all the goodies used for being a shopping basket and dropping the kiddies off to school. If you can live with that big problem.. Youll be sweet I reckon. 😉 |
Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2019 at 8:18am
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That would make it easier to clean the back windows on the cab. Anyone have solutions to cleaning those windows, please Crown with siding window option between it and cab |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2019 at 9:25pm
Can't see myself ever intentionally stopping in an Albany shopping mall. Problem solved ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: whippersnappyr
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2019 at 10:37pm
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Mitsubishi is not a brand I’d buy for any reason other than value. They are a small automotive brand struggling in most markets making cheapish vehicles. Still a Ute is primarily a tool so if you need it to do a job it probably makes the most sense buying the best value rather than the best overall product. As I’ve said in another thread even the mighty Ranger is a pretty awful driving experience to me. By the way I think the triton is rated to tow less than the other utes too so bear that in mind |
Posted By: JustAnotherSpearo
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 5:54am
What about Christmas shopping for Skoti? I've seen some of those photos..
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 6:03am
OK just for Xmas then ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: puff
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 7:27am
| Or when you break down? |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 8:43am
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Be like Nike "smudge' just do it. ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 10:13am
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JAS does have a point re car parks.. one I mentioned a way back. When test drive, also take around thru supermarket car parks.. This was a very strong suggestion made by an electrician m8 who had a Toyota van.. absolute crap turning circle...and another tradie who had an older Toyota ute. Super market and street car parks tend to be very generous in out skirt towns.. get into the suburbs, even Takanini, espec Manurewa, and out westside. The other day negotiating into a couple car parks in central Auckland in a newer model Toyota ute was a 7 point turn just to get out onto the exit ramp. In saying that when we test drove the mitsy, it was ok, nothing to right home about. If heading into Takanini, do a test drive of the LDV .. just for the experience. When we test drove, if like the LDV, was just around car park out to Clevedon, open road etc When a model, after doing that circuit, we took up the offer of having for day or 2.. actually tow the boat around, reverse up etc. It was the manoeuvring of the boat, and the trailer in the tightish convindes of our last home .. that sort of unsealed the deal. It was a tight choice between the mitsy and 2.2L 4x4 Ssangyoug We even had a couple demo models that had been factory chirped. Big difference but bit too touchy in city traffic. I dont know if the prices above are for 2 wheel or 4x4 avoid alwheel. End of the day, make your short list within budget.. then test drive each for a few days. PS get prices off Ssnagyog Takanini, then head over to western Ssangong do any deal there  |
Posted By: JustAnotherSpearo
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 10:17am
I always thought if you owned a lifted ranger with either chrome and or blacked out finishes you were allowed automatically in Auckland to park inconsiderately and take up two parks?! |
Posted By: Bounty Hunter
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 10:59am
this only applies specifically to the 2wd models with 20" wheels and offroad MT tires ------------- No disintegrations! |
Posted By: JustAnotherSpearo
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 12:05pm
Ah thanks for clearing that up for me mate. Beauty. |
Posted By: Schampy
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 5:08pm
| Those Mitsi,s do seem to be dam good value for money. If only they stretched the wheel base to be in proportion with the body when they gave it a make-over. The rear overhang really bugs me. Its like they cocked it up years ago.... stretched the tray to be a simlilar size to other utes, then didnt have the cash to re-engineer the chassis this time round. I guess it has a good turning circle though..... |
Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 7:33pm
| Couple of things I looked at, the angle of the back of the cab gives the back seat a nice angle to sit in. I found the rear seat in the ford a bit to straight up and down for me, only my opinion. I like the shorter wheel base better for reversing, my drive has a tight left hand turn and to longer wheel base causes the front bumper to hit my retaining wall. |
Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 10:00pm
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What are the manuals like in first gear? I watched a navara at the grunter hunter struggling to get a boat moving, first gear is too high.. That's if you are thinking manual smudge.. ------------- you can't fix an idiot with duct tape, but it does muffle them for a while... |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 10:07pm
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Auto. I don't think there's much point in owning a manual these days
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Posted By: Grasshoppa
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 9:12am
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Great value utes, make sure you get a catchcan for it (or any modern diesel vehicle) to reduce EGR and intake manifold carbon issues down the track. Dont ask the dealer to do it as they'll tell you it doesn't need it (they do). Doesn't affect warranty https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/performance/other/listing-2214772957.htm?rsqid=bb89f25b30344225be2e51bdbf90bb78-001" rel="nofollow - https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/performance/other/listing-2214772957.htm?rsqid=bb89f25b30344225be2e51bdbf90bb78-001 Another worthwhile addition is an iDrive or similar throttle controller, like most modern vehicle's the Triton use's fly-by-wire throttle which has a tiny bit of lag (most people confuse for turbo lag), not the end of the world to drive with but definitely noticeable, and if you try a vehicle with throttle controller you'll never look back. Doesn't give any more power etc just increase's throttle response relative to pedal position at low rev's, bit more of a grey area in terms of the vehicle's warranty but only a couple minutes to install/remove when getting serviced, good luck finding any throttle controller related warranty issues as they dont give any https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/mitsubishi/ecus/listing-2207306353.htm?rsqid=cf5cdf4236704b8e8eb36bd4348e693c-001" rel="nofollow - https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/mitsubishi/ecus/listing-2207306353.htm?rsqid=cf5cdf4236704b8e8eb36bd4348e693c-001 The above are far more beneficial than the big wheels/sports bars/spotlights and other bling that most insist on dressing up with Get the underbody sprayed if your so inclined as they're not from factory Enjoy!
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Posted By: Dagwood
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 11:39am
This might be worth thinking about. Nephew's barely 3 year old Colorado has some rust issues underneath. As far as I know he's never used it for beach launching and it's generally been babied.
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Posted By: jakepitsville
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 12:02pm
| my brother and father have the latest Rangers, I any mum in law have triton - we use the triton to 4wd, tow my surtees 5.5 and mostly my wife who rides 2x huge warm blood horses to competitions. Triton will do everything a Ranger will do just with a little less bling and about 20k less price tag. IMO if money is no option or you have a BIG BIG trailer boat like 7m plus get a Ranger. If a reliable no 4wd which costs abit less - triton. |
Posted By: Joker
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 6:11pm
One of those feather dusters (but not feathers) on a stick from the 2$ shops dipped in soapy water might work. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 7:02pm
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Wow, good stuff guys, thanks! Underbody spray, where would i get that done? any idea on price? ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2019 at 3:54am
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Tell the dealer to organise under spray as part of the deal same for tray line etc.they want the sale.its called negotiationing yes you will have to put some extra coin in. ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: Grasshoppa
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2019 at 9:20am
I did mine myself but was fortunate to have access to a hoist to raise vehicle, underbody spray is cheap enough from Repco/Supercheap Any paint & panel shop can do it so maybe ask around for prices, the dealer will most likely just be sending it to its favourite paint shop anyway
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Posted By: fish-feeder
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2019 at 9:47am
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Smudge,go to premier panel beating supplies 6 gt sth road and tell them Jason from waiuku sent you,buy their underbody sealer,6 x 1ltr tins should be enough to do the whole wagon. Ask Murphy's if they can apply it,about an hour's work with a splurge gun. Will be cheaper to supply your own sealer . ------------- dont get my personality mixed up with my attitude,my personality is me,my attitude depends on you. |
Posted By: ramprage
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2019 at 2:56pm
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Great thread, wouldn't buy another ute unless it has a 5 year warranty, Mitzi 10 years is a bit of a waste of time..10 years as long as it hasn't done more than 160,000 km. More utes would have done that in the 5 year period ------------- When the going gets tough...the tough keep going |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2019 at 6:22pm
------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: puff
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2019 at 8:12pm
 Mitsubenty |
Posted By: kitno
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2019 at 9:21pm
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Posted By: salty69
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2019 at 9:34pm
Hey fella. Got mine done as part of the deal. Cost is about 300 from memory. |
Posted By: Raging Bull
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 8:42am
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Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 8:43am
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Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 8:43am
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Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 8:46am
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To be fair, I think this is a weakness with all of the utes.. ------------- you can't fix an idiot with duct tape, but it does muffle them for a while... |
Posted By: Raging Bull
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 9:38am
| Get a Ranger smudge, all the cool kids are doing it! |
Posted By: fish-feeder
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 9:42am
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The new navara's are known to do this aswell. ------------- dont get my personality mixed up with my attitude,my personality is me,my attitude depends on you. |
Posted By: Raging Bull
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 10:00am
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Seriously though Smudge, take a new Ranger for a drive, then drive a triton, the extra few grand you pay for the Ranger is well worth it and you will get it back if you ever sell it. I tow my 237 Billfisher which is 3000kg on the trailer and it does it effortlessly. I just picked up a new one last week, they now have a 5 year or 150,000km warranty. If ya have a farmlands card you get $3000 of a new XLT. If ya don’t have a farmlands card you can get one for $500 |
Posted By: fish-feeder
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 10:41am
Apparently Mazdas snap too,same as a ranger underneath ------------- dont get my personality mixed up with my attitude,my personality is me,my attitude depends on you. |
Posted By: Grasshoppa
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 10:46am
Yep a look via google shows most the major brands have broken chassis examples, usually from abuse but the Navara is pretty common Any research shows most manufacturers have some issue, Ford Rangers/BT50 have a soft auto trans thats known to break when worked, and a major recall in Oz for DPF filters catching fire and burning them to the ground Colorado's use oil, early engine failure not unheard of Hilux's with blocked DPF's Triton has the odd manual that pops out of 3rd gear They all get carbon buildup in EGR and intake manifold depending on how driven Its almost not what anyone does best but what faults your prepared to maybe deal with.....
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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 11:10am
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So my question is/ why causes.. Bit of googling It seems over weighted hitch, over weight loads, and air bags that load weight at a single pivot point as against 2 points with leaf springs. Combinations of those with rutted roads and big holes/ bumps And all caused by exceeding manufactures specs (vertical hitch/ tray weight)/ and after market mods. And that king cabs/utes are 2 separate un joined 'vehicle' bodies.. where as a 7 seater type body on the same chassis is a single body adding structural strength the full length of the vechicle. Something that didnt come up was (as mentioned in towing ease in previous posts) the distance of hitch behind the rear axle leverage point... Just general observational impression, it seems those with greater distances where in the more prone brands (???) Bit of interesting read http://rvdaily.com.au/killing-dual-cab-utes/" rel="nofollow - http://rvdaily.com.au/killing-dual-cab-utes/ https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/bent-utes" rel="nofollow - https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/bent-utes https://camper.hemax.com/Reviews/815/Why_Ute_Chassis_Break" rel="nofollow - https://camper.hemax.com/Reviews/815/Why_Ute_Chassis_Break It seemed as suggested above that quite a few brands tended to be involved at different levels.. So having a Ssangyong I did a search for those occurrences...and havnt come across one.. yet. Not saying they will not do so when over loaded.. maybe just have to be exceptionally abused. (???) Trailer hitch vertical weighs are essential to good towing.. covered in detail in many older threads |
Posted By: kitno
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 12:26pm
| Get a landcruiser 100 series, you won't snap it, plenty of power, rear axle is way back, massive tow rating and they have a fridge in the centre console for your lion browns. Much better ride than any of the utes and you can fit your rods inside. Also the resale value is good. |
Posted By: Don18025
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 1:19pm
| I am not surprised they all break. Is it because of common manufacture of key parts - Hilux, Triton, Mazda, Ford Rangers are all made in Thailand. Maybe the same engineer's (from the supply company) mistake in working out the chassis strength. |
Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 5:07pm
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Is it because of common manufacture of key parts No.. as I explained and explained in the links I gave above Its basically leverage, beyond what the chassis is designed or recommended to carry by the manufactures Or put another way.. ppl who simply load up in a manner in ignorance.. not reading the instruction book. Doing a bit of reading..was interested that those heavy after market rear bull bars bolted at the very rear of the chassis put huge leverage loads on chassis... add a trailer a little over loaded on the draw bar, say 120kg that makes 1/4T plus leveraging down on the very rear. Now lets ad a tool box full of tools loaded in the back of the tray, behind the rear axle...say 150/200kg And no full body as in a SUV to stiffen up/ triangulate the load the full length thru roof pillars etc. Hit a bump.. Bottom line.. Blaming the manufactures for not designing for extreme idiots.. that social media BS stuff. That not unlike towing a long haul trailer behind a mini and complaining that at the end of the trip you now have a stretched limo BMW that will not fit in your garage at home |
Posted By: fish-feeder
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 5:29pm
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Nissan had a recall on the navara steps,if it was all user error that wouldn't happen I'd think. https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-unknown&ei=9YIhXaO5NNfyrAHq_pSABA&q=nissan+navara+chassis+recall+2018&oq=navara+broken+chassis&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.3.0i71l5.0.0..4589...0.0..0.0.0.......0.iRIi-D18Cjg" rel="nofollow - https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-unknown&ei=9YIhXaO5NNfyrAHq_pSABA&q=nissan+navara+chassis+recall+2018&oq=navara+broken+chassis&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.3.0i71l5.0.0..4589...0.0..0.0.0.......0.iRIi-D18Cjg ------------- dont get my personality mixed up with my attitude,my personality is me,my attitude depends on you. |
Posted By: kitno
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 6:25pm
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So an aftermarket rear bar, a toolbox in the back and a heavy trailer on a bumpy road is enough to make the vehicle snap in two!!! Rendering the whole thing more useless than it already was. What hunks of junk. |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 6:39pm
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Be interesting making a claim under the consumer guarantee act? I would have no problem with buying a "triton" knowing my rights will be covered never mind the 10yr warrenty. If a fridge should last 10yrs according to consumer then how long should a ute last 20yrs + if you factor in the price of a ute verses the price of a fridge?? ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: Clutch
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 6:51pm
| I love my 2017 Ssangyong |
Posted By: puff
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 6:54pm
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Funny, my original post about mitsubentys was more tongue in cheek more than anything..... but I don’t rate new utes overly much for towing real heavy loads.... landcrusier patrol .... wheels closer to the tow bar |
Posted By: fish-feeder
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 7:13pm
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Cruiser or.patrol.....proper small trucks. The UN uses them for a reason...... ------------- dont get my personality mixed up with my attitude,my personality is me,my attitude depends on you. |
Posted By: fish-feeder
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 7:18pm
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Too right puff, anything else is gonna end in tears. I had a V8 and box in the back of my safari,and a complete valiant V8 Ute with 4 rims,bumpers,spare trans and short block on the tandem,from Auckland to Welly,then towed a fully loaded trainer back,9hrz each way,safari didn't mind at all. ------------- dont get my personality mixed up with my attitude,my personality is me,my attitude depends on you. |
Posted By: Schampy
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 7:37pm
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I know pretty much every one will totally disagree... but i have been driving a vw amarok 2.0 6sp man. for the last 6 years and have been totally impressed by it. It dosnt have the grunt of the ranger when comes to towing. But its not far behind. As for day to day driving its fantastic. Considering its an aging design and small engine it still really punches above its weight when it comes to ride and handling. Im only gonna sell it to go to the v6... Yes pricey. But drive it and you will understand.
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Posted By: fish-feeder
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 7:56pm
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Nothing wrong with Volkswagens. Ferdenand would be proud. ------------- dont get my personality mixed up with my attitude,my personality is me,my attitude depends on you. |
Posted By: JustAnotherSpearo
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 8:24pm
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I was that kid at school pushing too hard with the pencils snapping them and having to sharpen them all the time... point is always someone out there who pushes everything to its limit. Pencils are a bit cheaper than a snapped ute last time I checked
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Posted By: feeder
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 9:03pm
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Good comment JAS, design limits are there for a reason, exceed them at your peril. Cheers ------------- The only bar to frequent is the Kawhia Bar |
Posted By: kitno
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 9:09pm
| I use to break my pencils also. So I started buying stronger pencils. Same applies to vehicles. I don't want to carry less in my truck because I'm scared it'll break in half. |
Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 10:15pm
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And what will smudge do? He's possibly confused as hell now.. ------------- you can't fix an idiot with duct tape, but it does muffle them for a while... |
Posted By: whippersnappyr
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 12:44am
V6 Amarok would be my choice but surely a Touareg would b miles nicer to own. luckily don’t need to own a Ute as they are pretty awful at everything other than being a work vehicle or towing stuff. |
Posted By: JustAnotherSpearo
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 5:56am
Good answer. Forget a ute smudge go get a Kenworth. Im still waiting for my pen license fron my primary school teacher.. Might pay to get the license to drive the Kenworth. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 6:17am
No I'm not confused at all. I agree there are plenty of great options available and a Landcruiser would be awesome. Do they have new ones for $45k? Are they utes? ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: pompey
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 8:23am
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[QUOTE=smudge][QUOTE=Big -Dave]And what will smudge do? He's possibly confused as hell now.. No I'm not confused at all. I agree there are plenty of great options available and a Landcruiser would be awesome. Do they have new ones for $45k? Are they ute Here is another option. If you need a ute, buy an older cheap one specifically for that use. It could be a decent petrol one for say $10k. Spend $20-$30k on a second hand car of your choice. I did this a couple of years ago. Looked at upgrading my scruffy 2001 100 series landcruiser to a newer model. The cost was huge for nothing my current cruiser can't do and I need one for towing etc. Instead I bought a 2007 Lexus 350 with low ks for $14000k. Fantastic car. Cheap solution even insuring and servicing two vehicles, which is halved because the mileage is spread between them. I will keep both vehicles until they die. Probably less depreciation than a new ute and less capital. |
Posted By: Clutch
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 5:19pm
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You know that I have the 2017 Ssangyong...and for for normal driving it is fabulous.It's only a 2.0 litre TD. We bought a 4 berth caravan 6 months ago....and it weighs 1450 I think.... the Ssangyong can still pull it at 100km/hr but I certainly feel it there and the fuel bill goes up 30%. About 4 months ago we also bought a 2015 Kuga Titanium 2.0L diesel. I haven't thought about using it to pull the caravan but it does have 450 Nm compared to the Ssangyong 400 Nm. I'll have to change the towball but I may check it out.
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Posted By: Bounty Hunter
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 6:00pm
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people love to talk about new cars it seems...
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Posted By: kitno
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 6:03pm
Yip, that old chestnut |
Posted By: Clutch
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 6:09pm
How did that add to the discussion?
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Posted By: Clutch
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 6:10pm
Are you Bounty Hunters lap dog?
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Posted By: Clutch
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 6:42pm
| People like you two stop new members from posting. Not cool |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 8:11pm
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Settle down Clutch.Why would that stop people from posting?
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Posted By: JustAnotherSpearo
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 9:05pm
He has a fair point. There has been multiple times I dont bother posting my thoughts because of similar stuff. I cant be the only one.. Why start a thread if you are likely to get the piss taken out of it when it's very relevant to day to day life of most of us here. I jump on here to pass time and gain knowledge / read things that interest me and have a chuckle. Not here to take a dump on peoples opinions and thoughts and get jealous because they have better toys in the sandpit than me. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 9:30pm
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The truth is that Social Media in all its forms has people expressing different opinions and different levels of tolerance. It literally is impossible to keep everyone happy. These forums have some pretty strict rules compared to most. I haven't found one yet with the depth of knowledge we have here. Often people misinterpret the intention of what has been written, I'm sure we've all upset someone at some stage. I know i have. I got a serve from a guy a while ago for Aussie bashing. I love it when we beat the Aussies at sports but really I respect just how good they are. I certainly didn't intend to offend but that's not how that person saw it. Fair enough, I'll tone it down and we move on. If people don't want to post because of a throw away comment or two, that's their choice. I'm not going to sterilise every conversation I see here. As moderators we have to deal with some real hard core nastiness at times, this isn't one of those situations ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: Fish Addict
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 9:52pm
Me to, thanks for remembering me Smudge I still carry a Kiwi passport and can't bring myself to apply for Aussie citizenship even though I have resided in Oz now for 39 years. Would I barrack for the Aussies against NZ, hell no!!! |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 10:22pm
you said it as you saw it ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |