Definitions

Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Pacman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Definitions
    Posted: 19 Jan 2003 at 10:42am
Pacman View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze
Avatar

Joined: 18 Dec 2002
Status: Offline
Points: 25

Can someone define these fishing terms for me please

trolling

jigging

ta

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Lethal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jan 2003 at 11:36am
Lethal View Drop Down
Rest In Peace
Rest In Peace
Avatar

Joined: 28 Oct 2002
Location: In our thoughts
Status: Offline
Points: 23636

Trolling is fishing along the sea surface behind a boat.....but by adding paravanes downriggers and Zwings into the water you can troll below the surface but not much deeper than 20ft to 40ft.....there are differant types of lures that can be used for trolling....

1 bibbed lures like rapalas that act like a fish swimming but travel deep are good for Kingfish Yellowfin, Albacore and Skipjack Tuna and Kahawai.

2  the skirted type lure which bubbles an pops come in a variatity of colours and sizes, for differant fish species some with weighted heads to run a little deeper than the surface.

Jigging is fishing from the surface to the sea bed, there are two types of jigging one is to bounce the jig on the bottom normaly to target snapper the other is speed jigging lower the jig to the bottom or the desired depth and wind like hell to the surface mostly used for kingfish.....

there are a lot of little tips to both of these types of fishing that will help catch you more fish.......so don't be afraid to ask.....

hope this helps Cheers Lethal

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote james mairs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2003 at 10:39pm
james mairs View Drop Down
New User
New User


Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Status: Offline
Points: 1
can someone define the term straylining for me thanks
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote smudge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2003 at 10:57pm
smudge View Drop Down
Moderator - Ninja
Moderator - Ninja
Avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Location: Te Toro
Status: Offline
Points: 33756

Hmmm I'll have a go.

Some refer to straylining as drifting an unweighted or very lightly weighted bait out the back of an anchored boat. Usually just enough weight if any to hit the bottom. Whole pilchards are a good way to go for this, but is often used for targeting big snapper in foul ground.

Other call straylining the "standard" type rig - in Auckland anyway - where a sinker bears down onto a swivel with a trace down to the hook(s). Usually more successful if cast out the back ogf the boat.

The meaning of the word to me is a bait that is free to follow the current and present itself as naturally as poss to the fish.

 

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Lethal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2003 at 11:22pm
Lethal View Drop Down
Rest In Peace
Rest In Peace
Avatar

Joined: 28 Oct 2002
Location: In our thoughts
Status: Offline
Points: 23636

Hi James

this is my idea of how it go's.........it would be to send a lightly weighted bait down towards a reef system..... normaly no deeper than 100ft 33mtrs..... the idea is to present this bait so it acts as if it was attached to nothing.... the better the presentation the more chance of a bigger fish.... big fish are a little wiser than the small guys, they have been around a while, like 20plus years for a fish maybe 15-18lb....you will increase your hookup rate by decreasing your line weight as heavy line will get towed along with the current and put a large bow in your line making it hard to stay in touch with the bait... one other thing i do is attach or half hitch my sinker into the bait so it all go's down together... you would normaly send this bait down a burley trail that has already been setup as the fish are atracted to this, thinking of a easy feed.....

thats just the basic's.... there is a whole lot more but you think about that first....then ask a few more latter....

Cheers Lethal

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Lethal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2003 at 11:27pm
Lethal View Drop Down
Rest In Peace
Rest In Peace
Avatar

Joined: 28 Oct 2002
Location: In our thoughts
Status: Offline
Points: 23636

hey smudge i like that better than mine..... we must have started about the same time on this one as yours was not posted when i started

Cheers Lethal

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Capt Asparagus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2003 at 11:59pm
Capt Asparagus View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 18 Sep 2002
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 13168

Those guys have them covered all right, cannot improve on that.

Trolling= pull a lure behind a boat in order to catch predatory fish.

Jigging= vertically bouncing a weighted lure below an anchored or slowly moving boat

Straylining= drfiting a minimally weighted bait back into a target area for a fish species, mostly used in snapper fishing.

Ta= a black, sticky, glutinous substance that splatters all over the gel-coat of your new boat as you drive to the boat ramp firsttime out to try your luck at trolling, jigging or straylining.

 

cheers,

Stu(well, you DID ask for a definitionof Ta didn't you?)

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Barrie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 2003 at 5:45am
Barrie View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium


Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Location: Auckland
Status: Offline
Points: 10449
Lethal
I normally put the small ball sinker inbetween two snelled hooks as it helps keep in touch with the bait. I have had the half hitch come undone and allow the ball sinker to part company with the bait makeing a belly in the line and a lot harder to stay in direct contact with the bait.
what do you think?
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Damo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 2003 at 6:40am
Damo View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 4632

Barrie

I too have used that method and found it pretty good even without snelling the top or "keeper hook". Still have to park near fish tho.

 

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Barrie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 2003 at 7:45am
Barrie View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium


Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Location: Auckland
Status: Offline
Points: 10449
OK
so now I know what Im doing wrong
works well in the deep when you really have to keep in touch
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Joseph Lau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 2003 at 10:23am
Joseph Lau View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 19 Jul 2002
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 399
Barrie, I have been using your method for a while now and it is really good. Nothing wrong there...
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Lethal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 2003 at 12:54pm
Lethal View Drop Down
Rest In Peace
Rest In Peace
Avatar

Joined: 28 Oct 2002
Location: In our thoughts
Status: Offline
Points: 23636

hi guys

the only problem i see with not fixing the second hook is it is not IGFA...

i would put possibly 3 to 5 half hitches at the end at least one should still be holding when it gets to the bottom....you would have to discard the rig if you wanted to change your sinker if it was between the to hooks...just thinking....but i do like that idea...

i lost three big fish in a row in deep water due to the sinker running up the trace and the bait spinning around the mainline on the way down, when the fish took the bait the twists in the line never came undone and i got broken off, took awhile to work out how these fish broke me off as i just got mainline back and no trace or sinker....that was a long time ago but it still sticks in the mind as they where very large Snaps i lost that day....

Cheers Lethal

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Joseph Lau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 2003 at 2:32pm
Joseph Lau View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 19 Jul 2002
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 399

Thanks Lethal for explaining some of the unexplained bust-offs I had experienced when I was pretty sure the line never touched the rock. I loved to use the running sinker rig and the trace does twist around the mainline sometimes especially when the sinker is only 1/4 oz and the mainline is 4.5 kg. I believe it would not take much force for nylon to cut into itself.

Whew !! The amount of knowledge one can pick up in these forums...

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Barrie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 2003 at 5:12pm
Barrie View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium


Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Location: Auckland
Status: Offline
Points: 10449
Lethal
It is a bloody curse haveing to change the weights but snelling is so easy that it only takes a minute to tie another rig. Black Majic must love me
Back to Top
Forum Jump
Forum Permissions View Drop Down


This page was generated in 0.818 seconds.

Fishing Reports Visit Reports

Freshwater Fishing Reports
Canterbury Fishing Report - 23/07/26

Lake fishing strong July is close to an end, our duck season is closing this... Read More >

24 Jul 2026
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Northland Fishing Report - 23/07/26

Inshore snapper fishing heating up It’s officially past the halfway point of winter, and the... Read More >

23 Jul 2026
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Bream Bay Fishing Report - 23/07/26

Winter kahawai abound  Kahawai and kingfish have ‘invaded’ Bream Bay over the last few weeks,... Read More >

23 Jul 2026
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Inner Hauraki Gulf Fishing Report - 23/07/26

Choose a spot and stick with it Why the chill factor of the wind affects... Read More >

23 Jul 2026
Fishing bite times Fishing bite times

Major Bites

Minor Bites

Major Bites

Minor Bites