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    Posted: 03 Jan 2014 at 11:16am
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The daily poll today is "Should commercial fishing be banned in the Hauraki Gulf?".  You can vote on the NZHerald web site.
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Heres the link, Get voting

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11180657
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just voted . results thus far---78% say ban it now
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LegaSea should wind up their members to vote on this...

out with the Comms,
and considering they are doing no one any favors in the way they are driving around peeing off Rec's this could be a huge wake up call to change their attitude towards the rest of fleet intent on catching a feed..

Vote for your rights...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11180657 
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Why only the gulf? Should be all areas in close to shore where recs go...
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Saw a doco on choice tv ch 12 last wednesday,called Montys Catch.  Was about the last of the traditional fishing communities in the u.k. Families that had fished for generations. Whole community based around commercial fishing that was sustainable.  govt regs and declining fish numbers were pushing many of these commercial fishers out. Quoted was --80 % of U.K fish are now caught by 10% of the fishermen.---ie large vacumn cleaner trawlers. For every ton of fish landed 3 ton were thrown back by these trawlers.
Its no different here. We are heading same direction & fast.
Think 2nd part is on this coming wednesday.? @ 7.30
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Should of been banned along time ago.. out with the lot of them..30 years overdue
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"Why only the gulf? Should be all areas in close to shore where recs go..."
yeah far comment... but things have to start somewhere.....1 harbour at a time..
like marine reserves... one at a time...
hmmm.. maybe not a good idea, the whole hauraki eventually a reserve maybe??
thinking that thru a little more thats exactly what will happen if the current rape of the gulf continues...there will be no choice.

peeing off Rec's this could be a huge wake up call to change their attitude"
nah m8.. they could not give a stuff to public opinion recs or otherwise....
bottom line its  illegal for them to to do so unless it effects returns to shareholders.. by law directors are obliged to maximize shareholder returns withing the law... thats how its worked since the dutch east inda trading company 1st formed a limited company and issued shares.

But public opinion and election year... in a area of high population and a few marginal seats...
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Seems pretty obvious ,except to the authorities and those with economic vested interest,that it is plain stupid and shortsighted to trawl any nursery area that holds spawning and juvenile fish .
That is a blatantly simple and obvious fact.  That is clearly  why we only have 20% of snapper left.
They will try and convince everyone that recreational fishing is to blame. In a small way ,possibly,but not the main cause by any means.
Trawling is a archaic ,primitive method of fishing that belongs in the dark ages. Overseas they are fast waking up to this.
But not so far in head in the sand N.Z . It would take a inshore fishery collapse to wake them up ,and that probably is the way we are heading.
 
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Shouldn't have the NZ herald say, Should commercial fishing be banned in the places that have been fished down to 6%, Oh that's right NZ herald is a Auckland paper, Can't have the nasty old comm guys in our backyard, Lets push them where they have already raped.
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Originally posted by worksux worksux wrote:

Shouldn't have the NZ herald say, Should commercial fishing be banned in the places that have been fished down to 6%, Oh that's right NZ herald is a Auckland paper, Can't have the nasty old comm guys in our backyard, Lets push them where they have already raped.

What he said.
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Don't forget to share the link on face book when you vote.
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Done!

Get rid of the trawlers most definitely and get rid of offshore factory type boats fishing out outer reaches. 
We need to be able to catch a feed for family, friends and neighbours more than we need some rich cock smokers getting richer… 
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personally I have no problem with NZ longliners.
But trawling withing 50 kms from shore NZ wide to me is a no no
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I really think that we need to separate trawling and long lining. The catch from a long liner is a lot more selective and there fore a lot less waste. Most are very small 2 man operations and create a lot less problems than trawlers. I would suggest they probably waste less than recreational?
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Should be more than H.G. We are told that BOP has just 6% of snapper bio mass left. Ponder that ,just 6%. And they still trawl it as if nothing is wrong. In most developed nations the cut off is 10%. At 10% the fishery is deemed collapsed and they close it right across the board.
Friend used to take a charter every now and then out to the cordell Banks ,just North of San Francisco & about 2 hours motoring. Then about 10 years back it was decided just one species of rock fish out of many species was becoming scarce. Fishery was closed just like that,to everyone .
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The fisheries are managed by a bunch of biased plonkers ..Dont expect any sudden changes .Talking about it will get us nowhere.

Direct action will be seen to be heard.. the recs outnumber the Comms 1000 to 1
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If you ban comm fishers from one area they will just decimate adjacent areas.
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A total ban on trawlers in coastal waters would be the optimum outcome. 
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