Opinions on what is the best SP lure

Page  <1 234
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote albert wild Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 2:43pm
albert wild View Drop Down
Silver
Silver


Joined: 10 May 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 118
Forget about brand names and look at softbaits as profiles, sluggos, jerkshads, flickbiats are all stick baits, No in built action and require AIA (angler induced action) to shake their wobbly bits. Shads, pogys, and paddle tails all have inbuilt tail actions that are created thru hydrodynamics. Saltwater fly fishermen usually relate to this very easily. Baits like stick baits have slender profiles that get down quick with a minimal amount of weight, which is always benificial. Shads and pogys usually require a little more weight and time to get them down to where you want them. These types of baits work extremly well in discoloured water as the produce a lot more vibration than stick baits. As far as rigging them is concerned, Texas rigging is a not the most effecient way to rig a soft bait. It creates a belly in the line reducing the feedback to the angler and also reduces hook ups by slowing down hooksetting speeds by the rod having to pull the belly out of the line first. Most baits will have a better action and relay more information back to the angler when they are weighted on the front of the bait. The only time you would consider a rig like this is if you were trying to extract fish from heavy cover, even in that situation you would use an all terrain jighead that is basically a worm hook  with weight built onto the front of it. These are available from many differant manufactures. Like I said Soft bait fishing is very similar to fly fishing, choose a profile, deliver it, get the bight. Forget about brand names, all of these things catch fish and you will catch fish rigging on worm hooks, but its far from the most effeciant way of presenting a soft bait. If it was the best way every angler in the ABT and AFC would be using them and believe me they dont.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Peter da Squid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 3:00pm
Peter da Squid View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 08 Aug 2002
Location: Virgin Islands
Status: Offline
Points: 5828
you also talk sh*t!!
Good for Nuthin
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Moocha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 3:46pm
Moocha View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 09 Dec 2003
Location: Area 51
Status: Offline
Points: 14490
LOL
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Kezza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 4:10pm
Kezza View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Location: Westside Hard
Status: Offline
Points: 14740
I am trying very hard to draw even a remote similarity between bass, bream and flathead etc and fishing for XOS snapper and kingfish which is what I'd say 99% of NZ softbait fishermen are targeting.....

We recently hosted the IFISH (Aussie fishing TV Show?) boys here in NZ and they where all about the jigheads that was till I showed them how effective the TEXAS rig was....

Albert-Wild.....believe me when I say the TEXAS rig works very very well for the sort of fishing we are doing (as the SB hall of fame will bare testamony too) and I'd be more than happy to have a fish-off with you one day......you use your preference of rigs and GULP! Baits and I'll use the texas rig and a selection of non Berkley kit....deep/shallow/casting/whatever.....maybe 2x teams of 2?

the soft bait battle of the tasman??...let's get it on!
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Moocha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 4:16pm
Moocha View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 09 Dec 2003
Location: Area 51
Status: Offline
Points: 14490
Hell yeah, now I want to see that episode on the ITM show Big%20smile.
 
Trans - Tasman SP fish off.... thats the ticket Thumbs%20Up
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Mahiman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 4:31pm
Mahiman View Drop Down
Forum Sponsor
Forum Sponsor
Avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 2129
Kezza I have switched to the worm hooks and like it a lot. I find I can really fine tune the amount of lead needed to get to the bottom. Also the lure slides up the line and does not get chomped and therefore lasts longer. Have you seen the cone shaped lead sinkers they use in bass fishing. I used them in Florida they could work well with your texas rig.....
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Kezza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 4:58pm
Kezza View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Location: Westside Hard
Status: Offline
Points: 14740
it'd be fun alright Moocha...Wink...

good on ya Mahiman...nice fish this morning mate!!...

I am constantly suprised at the number of icecream freezers that have swapped from jigheads to worm hooks since being shown that they 1) do work very well 2) increase longevity of the baits themselves 3) provide versatility and options 4) are cost effective....

even as recently as yesterday one of my learned collegues was persevering with jigheads, true enough he was hooking fish at about the same rate as the others on the boat that were using the TEXAS rig but Daryl (name has been changed to protect his identity) was losing them due to the "gay pink plucken line" breaking(?)...anyhoo...after he'd run out of his 2oz jigheads at whatever they are worth per unit ? he resorted to using a 1oz jighead with a 1oz ball sinker on top....hahahahaha.....after a few drifts and no fish a slighty wary and beaten man turns to me and says..."this thing looks just plain plucken wrong no snapper in their right mind would chew on this....so Kez!? where your worm hooks at bro and while I'm in here might just grab a few of those LUNKERCITY FIN-S shads" and after that ol' Daryl never looked back....I'm not sure if it was the rig but his fortunes changed....TRUE STORY!

and yes I have indeed seen the Texas Sinkers and thought about getting a few samples in to try out, but the supplier that I found only had 1oz plus the cost of shipping lead around the globe made it a little prohibitive....righteo....off to find a 1 & 2oz texas sinker mould!

stay tuned as i reckon they'd be the ducks danglies!
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Redfinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 5:49pm
Redfinger View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 29 Jul 2002
Status: Offline
Points: 7145
Kezza forgive me for being a real thicko but to me a ball sinker (trust that is what people are using) ontop of the sp just does not look right. Remember i have been using mainly the smaller sp's 3-5inch and the jig heads seem to present better.
Obviously u guys are getting the results and good on you.
Give me a situation say - 15m depth, 15 knots plus of wind - how much weight do u use?
Also how does the sp slide "up wards" upon hook up as I have heard a few people say?
 
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote A C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 5:59pm
A C View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 19 Jul 2002
Location: Drunken Haze
Status: Offline
Points: 10065
Come along with us Russ - it's easier to soak it all up that way and you'll see all manner of technique ( some good and some just atrocious ) and how and why.
Aye-Aye cloth eyes.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Moocha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 6:03pm
Moocha View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 09 Dec 2003
Location: Area 51
Status: Offline
Points: 14490
Roll on the SP Burbon Bowl comp Evil%20Smile (or some other clever name to that effect).

Sharpie's & Wormies vs Berkley &  Jiggy jig's heads .....sounds good for the Kiwis to smash the Roo's yet again LOL
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Kezza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 6:06pm
Kezza View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Location: Westside Hard
Status: Offline
Points: 14740
I guess it will be easier to show you on Wednesday the complete setup, but my preference is an EGG style sinker.....ahhhh...just typed out a bunch of stuff that was going no where quickly...so will attempt to show you what works for me on Wednesday.

re: bait sliding up the shank?



this occurs more often than not on the bite.....

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote A C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 6:13pm
A C View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 19 Jul 2002
Location: Drunken Haze
Status: Offline
Points: 10065
Originally posted by Moocha Moocha wrote:

Roll on the SP Burbon Bowl comp Evil%20Smile (or some other clever name to that effect).

Sharpie's & Wormies vs Berkley &  Jiggy jig's heads .....sounds good for the Kiwis to smash the Roo's yet again LOL


So long as we can get the bloody things Embarrassed

Meanwhile a little boy waits...........................
Aye-Aye cloth eyes.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Rotowarriors Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 7:25pm
Rotowarriors View Drop Down
Platinum
Platinum
Avatar

Joined: 06 Jun 2004
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 1910
we were slaying rat kingies at the cape on the mackerel imitations

and i was glad i had an overhead/baitcast reel instead of a eggbeater, found the kingies heaps easier to control compared to my bro's sp set up

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Redfinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 8:19pm
Redfinger View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 29 Jul 2002
Status: Offline
Points: 7145

kEZZA - my limited attempts at worm hook fishing have seen the sp slip from the eye end towards the point - not the way in the picture?? Then again Im a muppet!!

By the way what is an egg styles sinker?
 private message  me for the address for Wed night - still plenty spaces left.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Redfinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 8:20pm
Redfinger View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 29 Jul 2002
Status: Offline
Points: 7145
AC - Has to be done my friend. What part of jafaland are u?
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote A C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 8:39pm
A C View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 19 Jul 2002
Location: Drunken Haze
Status: Offline
Points: 10065
Titirangi. Next time we go there's a spot reserved for you if you can make it.
Aye-Aye cloth eyes.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Redfinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 at 8:44pm
Redfinger View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 29 Jul 2002
Status: Offline
Points: 7145
Top man! Gee that is a bit of a tow to omaha from there.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Mahiman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 2007 at 12:01pm
Mahiman View Drop Down
Forum Sponsor
Forum Sponsor
Avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 2129
Have been having a lot of success lately on the gulp 3" pogys in the dark red colour rigged on a worm hook. Funny how I had never caught much on the pogys before. Tried one the other day for a change and it outfished all other SP's by a long way........they are more durable and cheaper than the jerk shads too.....
Back to Top
Page  <1 234
Forum Jump
Forum Permissions View Drop Down


This page was generated in 1.094 seconds.

Fishing Reports Visit Reports

Freshwater Fishing Reports
Canterbury Fishing Report - 23/07/26

Lake fishing strong July is close to an end, our duck season is closing this... Read More >

24 Jul 2026
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Northland Fishing Report - 23/07/26

Inshore snapper fishing heating up It’s officially past the halfway point of winter, and the... Read More >

23 Jul 2026
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Bream Bay Fishing Report - 23/07/26

Winter kahawai abound  Kahawai and kingfish have ‘invaded’ Bream Bay over the last few weeks,... Read More >

23 Jul 2026
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Inner Hauraki Gulf Fishing Report - 23/07/26

Choose a spot and stick with it Why the chill factor of the wind affects... Read More >

23 Jul 2026
Fishing bite times Fishing bite times

Major Bites

Minor Bites

Major Bites

Minor Bites